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";}s:7:"summary";s:109:"[...] Abortion: Politically Dead Issue? Wednesday January 28th, 2009 in , Abortion, Human Rights, Obama [...]";s:12:"atom_content";s:117:"<p>[...] Abortion: Politically Dead Issue? Wednesday January 28th, 2009 in , Abortion, Human Rights, Obama [...]</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1263053694;}i:1;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:114:"Comment on Obama Dances Around Abortion. by OneUtah: Cliff Lyon Launches Another Personal Attack | Utah Free Press";s:4:"link";s:91:"http://utahfreepress.com/2008/08/19/obama-dances-around-abortion/comment-page-1/#comment-40";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:70:"OneUtah: Cliff Lyon Launches Another Personal Attack | Utah Free Press";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:14:37 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=203#comment-40";s:11:"description";s:186:"[...] evident from my first introduction to Mr. Lyon when he responded to an essay I wrote titled. “Obama Dances Around Abortion.”  Mr. Lyons first response to this essay was; [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:194:"<p>[...] evident from my first introduction to Mr. Lyon when he responded to an essay I wrote titled. “Obama Dances Around Abortion.”  Mr. Lyons first response to this essay was; [...]</p>
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";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1263053677;}i:2;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:118:"Comment on Obama Throws Bone to Abortionists by OneUtah: Cliff Lyon Launches Another Personal Attack | Utah Free Press";s:4:"link";s:96:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/03/02/obama-throws-bone-to-abortionists/comment-page-1/#comment-39";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:70:"OneUtah: Cliff Lyon Launches Another Personal Attack | Utah Free Press";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:12:37 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=410#comment-39";s:11:"description";s:1046:"[...] “I want you to consider that there is nothing “subtle” as you say about referring to Tiller’s assassin as “evil” a “murderous” and refusing to give him the recognition he likely desires but publishing his name and holding him up as some sort of hero. If that was not clear enough I will say clear as day that Tiller did not deserve to die at either the hands of this man or even the hands of the state for his crimes. I would hope you would remember from our many conversations that I don’t even support capitol punishment…” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical  “Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs. Those of us who support civil rights for the unborn lost one of our best examples of just how radical people like you have become when he was murdered. This will likely set back challenges to late term abortions (murders) for years!” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Obama Throws Bone to Abortionists [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:1054:"<p>[...] “I want you to consider that there is nothing “subtle” as you say about referring to Tiller’s assassin as “evil” a “murderous” and refusing to give him the recognition he likely desires but publishing his name and holding him up as some sort of hero. If that was not clear enough I will say clear as day that Tiller did not deserve to die at either the hands of this man or even the hands of the state for his crimes. I would hope you would remember from our many conversations that I don’t even support capitol punishment…” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical  “Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs. Those of us who support civil rights for the unborn lost one of our best examples of just how radical people like you have become when he was murdered. This will likely set back challenges to late term abortions (murders) for years!” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Obama Throws Bone to Abortionists [...]</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:1046:"[...] “I want you to consider that there is nothing “subtle” as you say about referring to Tiller’s assassin as “evil” a “murderous” and refusing to give him the recognition he likely desires but publishing his name and holding him up as some sort of hero. If that was not clear enough I will say clear as day that Tiller did not deserve to die at either the hands of this man or even the hands of the state for his crimes. I would hope you would remember from our many conversations that I don’t even support capitol punishment…” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical  “Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs. Those of us who support civil rights for the unborn lost one of our best examples of just how radical people like you have become when he was murdered. This will likely set back challenges to late term abortions (murders) for years!” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Obama Throws Bone to Abortionists [...]";s:12:"atom_content";s:1054:"<p>[...] “I want you to consider that there is nothing “subtle” as you say about referring to Tiller’s assassin as “evil” a “murderous” and refusing to give him the recognition he likely desires but publishing his name and holding him up as some sort of hero. If that was not clear enough I will say clear as day that Tiller did not deserve to die at either the hands of this man or even the hands of the state for his crimes. I would hope you would remember from our many conversations that I don’t even support capitol punishment…” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical  “Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs. Those of us who support civil rights for the unborn lost one of our best examples of just how radical people like you have become when he was murdered. This will likely set back challenges to late term abortions (murders) for years!” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Obama Throws Bone to Abortionists [...]</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1263053557;}i:3;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:126:"Comment on Are Abortion Clinics Destroying Evidence? by OneUtah: Cliff Lyon Launches Another Personal Attack | Utah Free Press";s:4:"link";s:103:"http://utahfreepress.com/2006/03/24/are-abortion-clinics-destroying-evidence/comment-page-1/#comment-38";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:70:"OneUtah: Cliff Lyon Launches Another Personal Attack | Utah Free Press";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:12:20 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=135#comment-38";s:11:"description";s:245:"[...] NAME.  [Complete excerpt in context below] “On March 24, 2006, I wrote an essay entitled “Are Abortion Clinics Destroying Evidence?” In this essay I argued that law enforcement should seize as evidence every aborted fetus from [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:253:"<p>[...] NAME.  [Complete excerpt in context below] “On March 24, 2006, I wrote an essay entitled “Are Abortion Clinics Destroying Evidence?” In this essay I argued that law enforcement should seize as evidence every aborted fetus from [...]</p>
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";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1263053540;}i:4;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:127:"Comment on Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical by OneUtah: Cliff Lyon Launches Another Personal Attack | Utah Free Press";s:4:"link";s:105:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/06/02/mass-murderer-dies-at-the-hands-of-radical/comment-page-1/#comment-37";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:70:"OneUtah: Cliff Lyon Launches Another Personal Attack | Utah Free Press";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:12:04 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=555#comment-37";s:11:"description";s:242:"[...] that I don’t even support capitol punishment…” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical  “Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs. [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:250:"<p>[...] that I don’t even support capitol punishment…” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical  “Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs. [...]</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:242:"[...] that I don’t even support capitol punishment…” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical  “Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs. [...]";s:12:"atom_content";s:250:"<p>[...] that I don’t even support capitol punishment…” [Emphasis added] – Richard Okelberry, Mass Murderer Dies at the Hands of Radical  “Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs. [...]</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1263053524;}i:5;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:76:"Comment on Utah Free Press: Visitor Statistics for 2009 by Richard Okelberry";s:4:"link";s:106:"http://utahfreepress.com/2010/01/01/utah-free-press-visitor-statistics-for-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-35";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:17:"Richard Okelberry";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Wed, 06 Jan 2010 20:45:56 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=549#comment-35";s:11:"description";s:181:"I would like to note that I began my compaign for River Heights City Council in July of 2009.  It is notable that it was during that month that my readership dramatically increased.";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:189:"<p>I would like to note that I began my compaign for River Heights City Council in July of 2009.  It is notable that it was during that month that my readership dramatically increased.</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:181:"I would like to note that I began my compaign for River Heights City Council in July of 2009.  It is notable that it was during that month that my readership dramatically increased.";s:12:"atom_content";s:189:"<p>I would like to note that I began my compaign for River Heights City Council in July of 2009.  It is notable that it was during that month that my readership dramatically increased.</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1262810756;}i:6;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:96:"Comment on Are Abortion Clinics Destroying Evidence? by Tiller The baby Killer | Utah Free Press";s:4:"link";s:103:"http://utahfreepress.com/2006/03/24/are-abortion-clinics-destroying-evidence/comment-page-1/#comment-34";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:40:"Tiller The baby Killer | Utah Free Press";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Wed, 06 Jan 2010 12:29:40 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=135#comment-34";s:11:"description";s:195:"[...] March 24, 2006, I wrote an essay entitled “Are Abortion Clinics Destroying Evidence?” In this essay I argued that law enforcement should seize as evidence every aborted fetus from [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:203:"<p>[...] March 24, 2006, I wrote an essay entitled “Are Abortion Clinics Destroying Evidence?” In this essay I argued that law enforcement should seize as evidence every aborted fetus from [...]</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:195:"[...] March 24, 2006, I wrote an essay entitled “Are Abortion Clinics Destroying Evidence?” In this essay I argued that law enforcement should seize as evidence every aborted fetus from [...]";s:12:"atom_content";s:203:"<p>[...] March 24, 2006, I wrote an essay entitled “Are Abortion Clinics Destroying Evidence?” In this essay I argued that law enforcement should seize as evidence every aborted fetus from [...]</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1262780980;}i:7;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:110:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by Utah Free Press: Visitor Statistics for 2009 | Utah Free Press";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-32";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:62:"Utah Free Press: Visitor Statistics for 2009 | Utah Free Press";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:27:12 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-32";s:11:"description";s:47:"[...] Bush Lied and People Died, Right?  [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:55:"<p>[...] Bush Lied and People Died, Right?  [...]</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:47:"[...] Bush Lied and People Died, Right?  [...]";s:12:"atom_content";s:55:"<p>[...] Bush Lied and People Died, Right?  [...]</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1262370432;}i:8;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:94:"Comment on Glenn Beck: Hung By the Neck by The Rise of Religious Intolerance | Utah Free Press";s:4:"link";s:92:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/04/15/glenn-beck-hung-by-the-neck-2/comment-page-1/#comment-30";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:51:"The Rise of Religious Intolerance | Utah Free Press";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Thu, 31 Dec 2009 18:09:12 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=534#comment-30";s:11:"description";s:183:"[...] week [April 15th, 2009] I posted an essay (Glenn Beck: Hung by the Neck) containing among other things a series of quotes made by the proprietor of www.OneUtah.org, Cliff [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:250:"<p>[...] week [April 15th, 2009] I posted an essay (Glenn Beck: Hung by the Neck) containing among other things a series of quotes made by the proprietor of <a href="http://www.OneUtah.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.OneUtah.org</a>, Cliff [...]</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:183:"[...] week [April 15th, 2009] I posted an essay (Glenn Beck: Hung by the Neck) containing among other things a series of quotes made by the proprietor of www.OneUtah.org, Cliff [...]";s:12:"atom_content";s:250:"<p>[...] week [April 15th, 2009] I posted an essay (Glenn Beck: Hung by the Neck) containing among other things a series of quotes made by the proprietor of <a href="http://www.OneUtah.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.OneUtah.org</a>, Cliff [...]</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1262282952;}i:9;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:80:"Comment on Was Jesus a Communist? by Your Own Socialist Jesus! | Utah Free Press";s:4:"link";s:84:"http://utahfreepress.com/2006/10/30/was-jesus-a-communist/comment-page-1/#comment-27";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:43:"Your Own Socialist Jesus! | Utah Free Press";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:56:04 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=515#comment-27";s:11:"description";s:134:"[...] of the relationship between Socialism, Communism and Christianity, you can read my essay, “Was Jesus a Communist?” for [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:142:"<p>[...] of the relationship between Socialism, Communism and Christianity, you can read my essay, “Was Jesus a Communist?” for [...]</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:134:"[...] of the relationship between Socialism, Communism and Christianity, you can read my essay, “Was Jesus a Communist?” for [...]";s:12:"atom_content";s:142:"<p>[...] of the relationship between Socialism, Communism and Christianity, you can read my essay, “Was Jesus a Communist?” for [...]</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1261940164;}i:10;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:65:"Comment on Obama Throws Bone to Abortionists by Richard Okelberry";s:4:"link";s:96:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/03/02/obama-throws-bone-to-abortionists/comment-page-1/#comment-22";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:17:"Richard Okelberry";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:25:26 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=410#comment-22";s:11:"description";s:644:"Steve,

I find it very interesting that you would blame those that have brought attention to the crimes committed by Tiller for his death.  Have you ever considered that if Tiller hadn't performed a late term abortion and killed a viable baby so that a girl could fit into her prom dress, that he might be alive today?

Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs.  Those of us who support civil rights for the unborn lost one of our best examples of just how radical people like you have become when he was murdered.  This will likely set back challenges to late term abortions (murders) for years!";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:670:"<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I find it very interesting that you would blame those that have brought attention to the crimes committed by Tiller for his death.  Have you ever considered that if Tiller hadn&#8217;t performed a late term abortion and killed a viable baby so that a girl could fit into her prom dress, that he might be alive today?</p>
<p>Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs.  Those of us who support civil rights for the unborn lost one of our best examples of just how radical people like you have become when he was murdered.  This will likely set back challenges to late term abortions (murders) for years!</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:644:"Steve,

I find it very interesting that you would blame those that have brought attention to the crimes committed by Tiller for his death.  Have you ever considered that if Tiller hadn't performed a late term abortion and killed a viable baby so that a girl could fit into her prom dress, that he might be alive today?

Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs.  Those of us who support civil rights for the unborn lost one of our best examples of just how radical people like you have become when he was murdered.  This will likely set back challenges to late term abortions (murders) for years!";s:12:"atom_content";s:670:"<p>Steve,</p>
<p>I find it very interesting that you would blame those that have brought attention to the crimes committed by Tiller for his death.  Have you ever considered that if Tiller hadn&#8217;t performed a late term abortion and killed a viable baby so that a girl could fit into her prom dress, that he might be alive today?</p>
<p>Personally, I wanted to see Tiller eventually tried and put away for life for his wrongs.  Those of us who support civil rights for the unborn lost one of our best examples of just how radical people like you have become when he was murdered.  This will likely set back challenges to late term abortions (murders) for years!</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1251768326;}i:11;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:57:"Comment on Obama Throws Bone to Abortionists by Stevedore";s:4:"link";s:96:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/03/02/obama-throws-bone-to-abortionists/comment-page-1/#comment-21";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:9:"Stevedore";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:33:09 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=410#comment-21";s:11:"description";s:144:"Hey, Early Christmas for you guys!

Keep Propagating the notion that people with different political ideals are Evil Killers, ITS WORKING GREAT!";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:158:"<p>Hey, Early Christmas for you guys!</p>
<p>Keep Propagating the notion that people with different political ideals are Evil Killers, ITS WORKING GREAT!</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:144:"Hey, Early Christmas for you guys!

Keep Propagating the notion that people with different political ideals are Evil Killers, ITS WORKING GREAT!";s:12:"atom_content";s:158:"<p>Hey, Early Christmas for you guys!</p>
<p>Keep Propagating the notion that people with different political ideals are Evil Killers, ITS WORKING GREAT!</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1243870389;}i:12;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:57:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by bekkieann";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-19";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:9:"bekkieann";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:10:47 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-19";s:11:"description";s:111:"Wait, I might have left that comment at your cross post on KVNU FTP, but I don't see it there either.  Ah well.";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:125:"<p>Wait, I might have left that comment at your cross post on KVNU FTP, but I don&#8217;t see it there either.  Ah well.</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:111:"Wait, I might have left that comment at your cross post on KVNU FTP, but I don't see it there either.  Ah well.";s:12:"atom_content";s:125:"<p>Wait, I might have left that comment at your cross post on KVNU FTP, but I don&#8217;t see it there either.  Ah well.</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1232813447;}i:13;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:57:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by bekkieann";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-18";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:9:"bekkieann";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:09:51 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-18";s:11:"description";s:358:"RO, I left a comment the other day and I don't see it here.  I'm not catching on to this commenting thingie.

"What truly is at question here is not whether Bush lied but whether you can prove it. . ."

This statement seems to imply you believe Bush lied but no-one can prove it.  Come on, Rich, why waste everyone's time with this if we all agree Bush lied?";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:408:"<p>RO, I left a comment the other day and I don&#8217;t see it here.  I&#8217;m not catching on to this commenting thingie.</p>
<p>&#8220;What truly is at question here is not whether Bush lied but whether you can prove it. . .&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement seems to imply you believe Bush lied but no-one can prove it.  Come on, Rich, why waste everyone&#8217;s time with this if we all agree Bush lied?</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:358:"RO, I left a comment the other day and I don't see it here.  I'm not catching on to this commenting thingie.

"What truly is at question here is not whether Bush lied but whether you can prove it. . ."

This statement seems to imply you believe Bush lied but no-one can prove it.  Come on, Rich, why waste everyone's time with this if we all agree Bush lied?";s:12:"atom_content";s:408:"<p>RO, I left a comment the other day and I don&#8217;t see it here.  I&#8217;m not catching on to this commenting thingie.</p>
<p>&#8220;What truly is at question here is not whether Bush lied but whether you can prove it. . .&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement seems to imply you believe Bush lied but no-one can prove it.  Come on, Rich, why waste everyone&#8217;s time with this if we all agree Bush lied?</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1232813391;}i:14;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:96:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by Dead Subject: Bush Lied! | KVNU's For The People";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-17";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:48:"Dead Subject: Bush Lied! | KVNU's For The People";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:28:53 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-17";s:11:"description";s:189:"[...] following is an excerpt from my essay, “Bush Lied and People Died, Right?” at UtahFreePress.com. I have published only an abridged version here because the original is quite [...]";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:205:"<p>[...] following is an excerpt from my essay, &#8220;Bush Lied and People Died, Right?&#8221; at UtahFreePress.com. I have published only an abridged version here because the original is quite [...]</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:189:"[...] following is an excerpt from my essay, “Bush Lied and People Died, Right?” at UtahFreePress.com. I have published only an abridged version here because the original is quite [...]";s:12:"atom_content";s:205:"<p>[...] following is an excerpt from my essay, &#8220;Bush Lied and People Died, Right?&#8221; at UtahFreePress.com. I have published only an abridged version here because the original is quite [...]</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1232638133;}i:15;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:57:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by rmwarnick";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-16";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:9:"rmwarnick";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:18:36 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-16";s:11:"description";s:309:"No, R.O.  We've gone around and around on this.  Bush LIED because what he said publicly about the alleged threats posed by Iraq conflicted with what he knew at the time.  Lies are not "mistakes."  No country in history has launched an invasion by mistake.

You know the proof.  You just refuse to believe it.";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:341:"<p>No, R.O.  We&#8217;ve gone around and around on this.  Bush LIED because what he said publicly about the alleged threats posed by Iraq conflicted with what he knew at the time.  Lies are not &#8220;mistakes.&#8221;  No country in history has launched an invasion by mistake.</p>
<p>You know the proof.  You just refuse to believe it.</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:309:"No, R.O.  We've gone around and around on this.  Bush LIED because what he said publicly about the alleged threats posed by Iraq conflicted with what he knew at the time.  Lies are not "mistakes."  No country in history has launched an invasion by mistake.

You know the proof.  You just refuse to believe it.";s:12:"atom_content";s:341:"<p>No, R.O.  We&#8217;ve gone around and around on this.  Bush LIED because what he said publicly about the alleged threats posed by Iraq conflicted with what he knew at the time.  Lies are not &#8220;mistakes.&#8221;  No country in history has launched an invasion by mistake.</p>
<p>You know the proof.  You just refuse to believe it.</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1232565516;}i:16;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:58:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by rokelberry";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-15";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:10:"rokelberry";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:38:17 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-15";s:11:"description";s:2035:"Richard Warnick,

Your idea that we should all express how tired we are of having a government that lies on a daily basis is perfectly legitimate.  But to predicate that idea on the back of the Bush Lied Conspiracy is completely illegitimate.  I asked both you and Becky to give me solid examples of the Bush Administration lying in the lead up to the war and neither of you were able to substantiate your claim.  

You both relied on the fact that certain information given by the Whitehouse turned out to be inaccurate as an example of lying.  It is not.  The information while well delivered and even possibly over emphasized was information gleamed from actual beliefs and raw intelligence from our intelligence agencies.  You still have yet to produce the smoking gun documents or testimony that says that Bush told his advisors to fabricate evidence.  

While he certainly made mistakes until that evidence is presented, we must assume as good, right and just people that Bush was being honest in his assessments.  After all, that it what it was, an assessment of an overwhelming pile of information, no matter how circumstantial.  Did he have a motive for trying to make a best case against Iraq?  Sure, he believed as the Clinton Administration did that Iraq had WMDs and was supplying/funding terrorists.  

You yourself are making the exact same mistake by trying to build a case based on circumstantial / anecdotal information and conjectured opinion.  So what is your motivation?

What truly is at question here is not whether Bush lied but whether you can prove it before bearing false witness against him.  That has always been what this is about.  

If we are purely talking about whether politicians lie I will agree with you that we need to begin to say no to even exaggerations of the truth.  So why don’t we start with our current president and look back at the many things said during his campaign.  Heck we can do the same to McCain if you like.  You write it up at OneUtah.org and you’re sure to see me there.";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:2079:"<p>Richard Warnick,</p>
<p>Your idea that we should all express how tired we are of having a government that lies on a daily basis is perfectly legitimate.  But to predicate that idea on the back of the Bush Lied Conspiracy is completely illegitimate.  I asked both you and Becky to give me solid examples of the Bush Administration lying in the lead up to the war and neither of you were able to substantiate your claim.  </p>
<p>You both relied on the fact that certain information given by the Whitehouse turned out to be inaccurate as an example of lying.  It is not.  The information while well delivered and even possibly over emphasized was information gleamed from actual beliefs and raw intelligence from our intelligence agencies.  You still have yet to produce the smoking gun documents or testimony that says that Bush told his advisors to fabricate evidence.  </p>
<p>While he certainly made mistakes until that evidence is presented, we must assume as good, right and just people that Bush was being honest in his assessments.  After all, that it what it was, an assessment of an overwhelming pile of information, no matter how circumstantial.  Did he have a motive for trying to make a best case against Iraq?  Sure, he believed as the Clinton Administration did that Iraq had WMDs and was supplying/funding terrorists.  </p>
<p>You yourself are making the exact same mistake by trying to build a case based on circumstantial / anecdotal information and conjectured opinion.  So what is your motivation?</p>
<p>What truly is at question here is not whether Bush lied but whether you can prove it before bearing false witness against him.  That has always been what this is about.  </p>
<p>If we are purely talking about whether politicians lie I will agree with you that we need to begin to say no to even exaggerations of the truth.  So why don’t we start with our current president and look back at the many things said during his campaign.  Heck we can do the same to McCain if you like.  You write it up at OneUtah.org and you’re sure to see me there.</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:2035:"Richard Warnick,

Your idea that we should all express how tired we are of having a government that lies on a daily basis is perfectly legitimate.  But to predicate that idea on the back of the Bush Lied Conspiracy is completely illegitimate.  I asked both you and Becky to give me solid examples of the Bush Administration lying in the lead up to the war and neither of you were able to substantiate your claim.  

You both relied on the fact that certain information given by the Whitehouse turned out to be inaccurate as an example of lying.  It is not.  The information while well delivered and even possibly over emphasized was information gleamed from actual beliefs and raw intelligence from our intelligence agencies.  You still have yet to produce the smoking gun documents or testimony that says that Bush told his advisors to fabricate evidence.  

While he certainly made mistakes until that evidence is presented, we must assume as good, right and just people that Bush was being honest in his assessments.  After all, that it what it was, an assessment of an overwhelming pile of information, no matter how circumstantial.  Did he have a motive for trying to make a best case against Iraq?  Sure, he believed as the Clinton Administration did that Iraq had WMDs and was supplying/funding terrorists.  

You yourself are making the exact same mistake by trying to build a case based on circumstantial / anecdotal information and conjectured opinion.  So what is your motivation?

What truly is at question here is not whether Bush lied but whether you can prove it before bearing false witness against him.  That has always been what this is about.  

If we are purely talking about whether politicians lie I will agree with you that we need to begin to say no to even exaggerations of the truth.  So why don’t we start with our current president and look back at the many things said during his campaign.  Heck we can do the same to McCain if you like.  You write it up at OneUtah.org and you’re sure to see me there.";s:12:"atom_content";s:2079:"<p>Richard Warnick,</p>
<p>Your idea that we should all express how tired we are of having a government that lies on a daily basis is perfectly legitimate.  But to predicate that idea on the back of the Bush Lied Conspiracy is completely illegitimate.  I asked both you and Becky to give me solid examples of the Bush Administration lying in the lead up to the war and neither of you were able to substantiate your claim.  </p>
<p>You both relied on the fact that certain information given by the Whitehouse turned out to be inaccurate as an example of lying.  It is not.  The information while well delivered and even possibly over emphasized was information gleamed from actual beliefs and raw intelligence from our intelligence agencies.  You still have yet to produce the smoking gun documents or testimony that says that Bush told his advisors to fabricate evidence.  </p>
<p>While he certainly made mistakes until that evidence is presented, we must assume as good, right and just people that Bush was being honest in his assessments.  After all, that it what it was, an assessment of an overwhelming pile of information, no matter how circumstantial.  Did he have a motive for trying to make a best case against Iraq?  Sure, he believed as the Clinton Administration did that Iraq had WMDs and was supplying/funding terrorists.  </p>
<p>You yourself are making the exact same mistake by trying to build a case based on circumstantial / anecdotal information and conjectured opinion.  So what is your motivation?</p>
<p>What truly is at question here is not whether Bush lied but whether you can prove it before bearing false witness against him.  That has always been what this is about.  </p>
<p>If we are purely talking about whether politicians lie I will agree with you that we need to begin to say no to even exaggerations of the truth.  So why don’t we start with our current president and look back at the many things said during his campaign.  Heck we can do the same to McCain if you like.  You write it up at OneUtah.org and you’re sure to see me there.</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1232563097;}i:17;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:57:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by rmwarnick";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-14";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:9:"rmwarnick";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:40:54 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-14";s:11:"description";s:486:"That idea of saying whatever it takes to "sell the war" is part of Karl Rove's "permanent campaign" mindset.  First, run a campaign based on lies, then try to govern as if you are still campaigning.  

A lot of politicians might ask, what's wrong with that?  We should answer, we're tired of having a government that lies to us on a daily basis.  Years ago, we used to make fun of the Soviet Union for pushing lies and propaganda, now it's not so funny when it's coming from Washington.";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:554:"<p>That idea of saying whatever it takes to &#8220;sell the war&#8221; is part of Karl Rove&#8217;s &#8220;permanent campaign&#8221; mindset.  First, run a campaign based on lies, then try to govern as if you are still campaigning.  </p>
<p>A lot of politicians might ask, what&#8217;s wrong with that?  We should answer, we&#8217;re tired of having a government that lies to us on a daily basis.  Years ago, we used to make fun of the Soviet Union for pushing lies and propaganda, now it&#8217;s not so funny when it&#8217;s coming from Washington.</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:486:"That idea of saying whatever it takes to "sell the war" is part of Karl Rove's "permanent campaign" mindset.  First, run a campaign based on lies, then try to govern as if you are still campaigning.  

A lot of politicians might ask, what's wrong with that?  We should answer, we're tired of having a government that lies to us on a daily basis.  Years ago, we used to make fun of the Soviet Union for pushing lies and propaganda, now it's not so funny when it's coming from Washington.";s:12:"atom_content";s:554:"<p>That idea of saying whatever it takes to &#8220;sell the war&#8221; is part of Karl Rove&#8217;s &#8220;permanent campaign&#8221; mindset.  First, run a campaign based on lies, then try to govern as if you are still campaigning.  </p>
<p>A lot of politicians might ask, what&#8217;s wrong with that?  We should answer, we&#8217;re tired of having a government that lies to us on a daily basis.  Years ago, we used to make fun of the Soviet Union for pushing lies and propaganda, now it&#8217;s not so funny when it&#8217;s coming from Washington.</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1232559654;}i:18;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:57:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by bekkieann";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-13";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:9:"bekkieann";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:09:16 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-13";s:11:"description";s:814:"Jeez, RO, people have to register in order to leave comments?  What a pain.

I haven't read the whole essay yet, but got to the part where you reference me and just want to set the record straight: That wasn't the BEST example I could find, it was the FIRST one I found.  

I am pleased that you acknowledge Bush had a motive of pushing his "agenda" in his misinformation campaign, to wit: "It is only evidence of a skillful politician who knows how to make his points for the greatest effect.  If this way of thinking were true, anytime any president of either political party used the Bully Pulpit when pushing an agenda it would be considered a lie."

I promise to finish reading this when I return a little later.  I thought it was cute that you referred to me as a "True Believer of the Bush Lied Conspiracy".";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:888:"<p>Jeez, RO, people have to register in order to leave comments?  What a pain.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the whole essay yet, but got to the part where you reference me and just want to set the record straight: That wasn&#8217;t the BEST example I could find, it was the FIRST one I found.  </p>
<p>I am pleased that you acknowledge Bush had a motive of pushing his &#8220;agenda&#8221; in his misinformation campaign, to wit: &#8220;It is only evidence of a skillful politician who knows how to make his points for the greatest effect.  If this way of thinking were true, anytime any president of either political party used the Bully Pulpit when pushing an agenda it would be considered a lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>I promise to finish reading this when I return a little later.  I thought it was cute that you referred to me as a &#8220;True Believer of the Bush Lied Conspiracy&#8221;.</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:814:"Jeez, RO, people have to register in order to leave comments?  What a pain.

I haven't read the whole essay yet, but got to the part where you reference me and just want to set the record straight: That wasn't the BEST example I could find, it was the FIRST one I found.  

I am pleased that you acknowledge Bush had a motive of pushing his "agenda" in his misinformation campaign, to wit: "It is only evidence of a skillful politician who knows how to make his points for the greatest effect.  If this way of thinking were true, anytime any president of either political party used the Bully Pulpit when pushing an agenda it would be considered a lie."

I promise to finish reading this when I return a little later.  I thought it was cute that you referred to me as a "True Believer of the Bush Lied Conspiracy".";s:12:"atom_content";s:888:"<p>Jeez, RO, people have to register in order to leave comments?  What a pain.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the whole essay yet, but got to the part where you reference me and just want to set the record straight: That wasn&#8217;t the BEST example I could find, it was the FIRST one I found.  </p>
<p>I am pleased that you acknowledge Bush had a motive of pushing his &#8220;agenda&#8221; in his misinformation campaign, to wit: &#8220;It is only evidence of a skillful politician who knows how to make his points for the greatest effect.  If this way of thinking were true, anytime any president of either political party used the Bully Pulpit when pushing an agenda it would be considered a lie.&#8221;</p>
<p>I promise to finish reading this when I return a little later.  I thought it was cute that you referred to me as a &#8220;True Believer of the Bush Lied Conspiracy&#8221;.</p>
";s:14:"date_timestamp";i:1232489356;}i:19;a:10:{s:5:"title";s:57:"Comment on Bush Lied and People Died, Right? by rmwarnick";s:4:"link";s:94:"http://utahfreepress.com/2009/01/20/bush-lied-and-people-died-right/comment-page-1/#comment-12";s:2:"dc";a:1:{s:7:"creator";s:9:"rmwarnick";}s:7:"pubdate";s:31:"Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:08:23 +0000";s:4:"guid";s:42:"http://utahfreepress.com/?p=383#comment-12";s:11:"description";s:141:""[M]ost of the information given by the Bush Administration leading to the war may have ended up not being true."

What information was true?";s:7:"content";a:1:{s:7:"encoded";s:167:"<p>&#8220;[M]ost of the information given by the Bush Administration leading to the war may have ended up not being true.&#8221;</p>
<p>What information was true?</p>
";}s:7:"summary";s:141:""[M]ost of the information given by the Bush Administration leading to the war may have ended up not being true."

What information was true?";s:12:"atom_content";s:167:"<p>&#8220;[M]ost of the information given by the Bush Administration leading to the war may have ended up not being true.&#8221;</p>
<p>What information was true?</p>
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